not a committee post: misc template links

[aethel]

The vid template is now in use if anyone wants to try it out.

So many new zine templates are now in use that I created a guide to go with them.

Another fanwork template idea: Since vids get their own template, why not fanfiction? Any other fields to add to this one?

Amy wrote a nifty timeline help page for creating your own timeline template, like the graph on the Timeline_of_Slashed_Sources page.

Comments

Podfic template?

[tai]

The fanfic template looks good - does pairing go under genre or should there be a separate field?

If we've got templates for vids and fic, how about one for podfic? I brainstormed a draft but I'm unsure how many fields we need - when they stop being useful and just becom overlong.

Title:
Reader/s:
Author:
Cover Artist:
Fandom:
Date:
Length:
Format:
Story Text link:
External links:

Perhaps split External links into Streaming link and Download link? Possibly also add Pairing and Rating? I dunno!

Re: Podfic template?

[tai]

Format should probably be renamed File Type, perhaps Cover Artist should simply be Artist, to cover fan musicians and so on? Or a separate field for Music?

Re: Podfic template?

[ratcreature]

But is there any podfic that has a seperate article from its story? And if so why? Wouldn't any special comment on the podfic be bundled in the story article like fanart for stories is? Or is this box supposed to go on the story page, i.e. two boxes?

Re: Podfic template?

[tai]

Well, Written by the Victors and And Be One Traveler both have their own pages linked from the main podfic article. I tend to think of podfic as being its own fanwork, not just an extension of the fanfic, and if you're profiling a fan who is primarily a podfic reader it's useful to have pages about her most notable works. Those two podfics I linked were both large collaborative works with multiple readers, but if someone thinks a podfic is notable enough to have its own page I see no reason why it shouldn't, and hence a template would be useful!

Re: Podfic template?

[ratcreature]

Well, I'm not saying it is not a fanwork, fanart illustrating the story is its own fanwork too, and still bundled on story pages. You can link to sections on pages just as well as to pages, so linking to the podfic section directly on a story page is no problem.

I'm not against having a template as such, as that I'd like it better if the guidline was to bundle such clusters of fanworks in one article unless it was becoming really huge, rather than splitting off the cover, the podfic, the fanmix, the illustration, the trailer and so on and so forth, each in its own tiny article. We could still put the technical detail about the podfic in some template box, like how on wikipedia there are sometimes two boxes on one page.

Re: Podfic template?

[tai]

Having two templates on one page also sounds great! I just found this List of Merlin Podfics frogspace has made - everything is on the story pages and articles like Quickening Days, where half the page is about the podfic, could easily be broken into sections. I agree it would be silly to have half a dozen tiny articles about one cluster, but I don't think that's very likely to happen. As long as people feel free to create podfic pages when they really do deserve a separate one, like those two epic collaborations linked above, it's all good.

Re: Podfic template?

[aethel]

I would remove Story Text link and format (I've never seen a podfic that wasn't available in mp3 format). The important thing to keep in mind is that we are not the archive where the podfic is, so we don't necessarily need or want all the fields that would appear in the header info for an archive entry.

If there are enough podfic-only pages, I'd say go for it! But the conversation downthread suggests to me that there aren't. Having two infoboxes on one page would look weird to me, though that doesn't mean we can't do it. An alternative would be to add a podfic field into the fanfiction template. Or even create a separate template for fanfic-with-podfic.

Re: Podfic template?

[aethel]

"downthread" > by which I mean "upthread"

Re: Podfic template?

[frogspace.livejournal.com]

An alternative would be to add a podfic field into the fanfiction template.

I'm not sure what I would add to such a field. "Podfic: yes"? I always include the podfic link together with the story link(s) and art link in the external links field...

What I would find useful would be more space between "external links" and "Click here for articles related to this fanwork on Fanlore" (which is too long IMO) because I have a hard time seeing them as two separate links and I have to really concentrate to read the external link text. Right now I'm always adding extra space by adding breaks after external links.

Re: Podfic template?

[meg_r]

An alternative would be to add a podfic field into the fanfiction template.

I'm not sure what I would add to such a field. "Podfic: yes"? I always include the podfic link together with the story link(s) and art link in the external links field...

An 'associated works' field? (only, a better name. Related works?) A lot of stories have podfic/art/vids/shared universes/remixes and so on. Though with some stories that could get quite long.

Re: Podfic template?

[frogspace.livejournal.com]

A lot of stories have podfic/art/vids/shared universes/remixes and so on.

Yes, but that goes to the main part of the article as well and usually there is more to say about it than would fit in a field in an infobox. When it comes to linking to the original pages, these links fit under external links (see for example http://fanlore.org/wiki/Steam).

Re: Podfic template?

[aethel]

some "associated fanworks" might have their own page on Fanlore (like the Hindsight Trailer) and therefore wouldn't fit in the "external links" section. But it's true not everything needs to go into the infobox...

(By the way, I shortened the "click here" text)

Re: Podfic template?

[frogspace.livejournal.com]

Yes, but that too is linked in the article. ;) See
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Accidental_Memory_In_The_Case_Of_Death
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Accidental_Memory_In_The_Case_Of_Death_%28Merlin_vid%29

(By the way, I shortened the "click here" text)

Thank you! :D