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ETA. Tuesday March 30: This page is getting very hard to read for anyone who didn't happen to follow along as it was changed. I'm going to post a new list that shows all the wonderful additions people have suggested as well as a new category system. I'll put that up tomorrow, Wednesday, and we can discuss categories and visit the issue of re-naming pages in a format where no-one's opinions get lost.
ETA: Can we start using Subject Lines. I need to put this page onto ?view=flat to keep up.
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fanlore : Fic -Privileging on Fanlore and Limitations to Fannish Diversity
Various conversations on talk pages on the wiki, some linked below. See also: Talk page on tentaclefic page.
As discussed on the pages linked above, most of the trope pages on the wiki are linked from the Story Trope page. That page began as a fic-focused list and the problem has spread into dozens of pages throughout the wiki.
The Proposal: Let's begin with the Story Tropes page and reimagine it, then we can all work on various other old and new trope pages and make Fanlore trope pages about all fanworks in all fandoms.
What I am suggesting is first renaming the page as Tropes, Genres and Classification in Fanworks (or something shorter if that's felt to be necessary.) If we as a community can come to a consensus on restructuring the page in this way, the next step is to rename the listed tropes in an inclusive way, and then rename the pages they link to, or make pages if they don't yet exist.
Below the cut is the code from that page, as at March 23, with my proposed changes shown. Strikethroughs = removal, Blue means new or changed. I am starting from the code here, since just looking at the page (which is a list of wikilinks) won't show you where the links actually go.
I don't have all the answers here! I am finding names hard to determine, I don't know much about art or vidding, so there may be needed additions that I'm not aware of. Please look this over, offer suggestions for names where you see ???, and let's see if the community likes this idea, and if we can go forward with making this area of the wiki better armed with a plan.
If we do chose to go this route, we need a list of pages that need to be moved (the way a name change happens) and a list of new pages that can be made(currently really hard to count, but it's quite a few). Please look this over, look at the page on the wiki and chime in with how you think this can be improved.
N.B. I have used hard coded Blue text in places. If you happen to have a background that will not display that text comfortably, please try adding ?format=light to the url of this entry. Comments are in (). ETA, suggestions from comments are in red.
ETA: I should have been clearer, that blue does not absolutely mean erase the old page name from existance. Some things, like Curtain fic, are terms that will have to have a page to explain the term, but the trope itself in a general non fic-specific way should have a page to be discussed.
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ETA: Can we start using Subject Lines. I need to put this page onto ?view=flat to keep up.
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fanlore : Fic -Privileging on Fanlore and Limitations to Fannish DiversityVarious conversations on talk pages on the wiki, some linked below. See also: Talk page on tentaclefic page.
As discussed on the pages linked above, most of the trope pages on the wiki are linked from the Story Trope page. That page began as a fic-focused list and the problem has spread into dozens of pages throughout the wiki.
The Proposal: Let's begin with the Story Tropes page and reimagine it, then we can all work on various other old and new trope pages and make Fanlore trope pages about all fanworks in all fandoms.
What I am suggesting is first renaming the page as Tropes, Genres and Classification in Fanworks (or something shorter if that's felt to be necessary.) If we as a community can come to a consensus on restructuring the page in this way, the next step is to rename the listed tropes in an inclusive way, and then rename the pages they link to, or make pages if they don't yet exist.
Below the cut is the code from that page, as at March 23, with my proposed changes shown. Strikethroughs = removal, Blue means new or changed. I am starting from the code here, since just looking at the page (which is a list of wikilinks) won't show you where the links actually go.
I don't have all the answers here! I am finding names hard to determine, I don't know much about art or vidding, so there may be needed additions that I'm not aware of. Please look this over, offer suggestions for names where you see ???, and let's see if the community likes this idea, and if we can go forward with making this area of the wiki better armed with a plan.
If we do chose to go this route, we need a list of pages that need to be moved (the way a name change happens) and a list of new pages that can be made(currently really hard to count, but it's quite a few). Please look this over, look at the page on the wiki and chime in with how you think this can be improved.
N.B. I have used hard coded Blue text in places. If you happen to have a background that will not display that text comfortably, please try adding ?format=light to the url of this entry. Comments are in (). ETA, suggestions from comments are in red.
ETA: I should have been clearer, that blue does not absolutely mean erase the old page name from existance. Some things, like Curtain fic, are terms that will have to have a page to explain the term, but the trope itself in a general non fic-specific way should have a page to be discussed.
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