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Tuesday, May 17th, 2011 03:27 pm (UTC)
No worries on the Teal Dear.

I think this conversation is highlighting that Categories seem really important--and intuitively we think of categorization as this really meaningful thing where we decide where something is kept/what it is--but on Fanlore all a category does from a user's perspective is include the page on an index(es) of similar things. The page isn't "kept" anywhere, and the category doesn't restrictively label the page as belonging to one single topic, and it's also one of the easiest things to correct later.

Sorting out categories so users of Fanlore can find things, and so editors do know what ones to use is important, but it's not something a brand new editor needs to have a firm handle on before they get going. My advice for new editors, and not so new editors, is to spend no time at all worrying about categories for your page. Gardeners or other regular users will come along and fix your page, and as you get experience, you will start to figure it out.

For making new pages from scratch, understanding Templates is a lot more meaningful since the Template you use influences your content (and puts some categories on the page automatically so you never need to even give them a thought). It's also not a big deal to fix it if you decide a different Template is better later.

Which is why I think for this conversation, fans knowledgeable about East Asian source text fandoms could really help by weighing in on the Infoboxes on the Fandom by Source Text Templates that right now are supposed to be generic to all varieties of fandoms. If those need to be customized to really meet the needs of East Asian sourced fandoms that needs, in my opinion, to happen before new editors are recruited.

Now, as to this discussion, I took this post to be directed at fans knowledgeable about East Asian sourced fandoms, but not necessarily Fanlore power users. In that sense, the question is how should Fanlore index those kinds of Fandom pages and what things should go together on the indexes and what should the indexes be named.

Also, I bet Lian and Frogspace were happy to be pestered. This is our hardest hurdle, getting the word out on how really thrilled regular editors are to see new faces. (The answer to that one is really, really thrilled.)

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