[mrs_potatohead]

I’ve got one more letter to go (S) in my pass through the zines *tongue hangs out in an unappealing way*, making sure there’s a fandom category for each one. I have seen some patterns and places for clarification.

Keep in mind, I don’t know the right terms for things, to be gentle. Please. Also, this is a VERY rough draft. It has all sorts of holes in it, places where other info will fit. But it’s a start.

(An aside: I think there should be a group of popular category searches right at the top of the Main Page. It would be a way to entice folks to look further, and it would give an example of how categories work.)

1. Connect/subcategories so that someone looking for any of these also sees other similar categories listed at the top of pages: categories, main fandom pages, other places? How best to group similar interests/searches? How can we make it easier for the casual browser?

Actor RPF, Australian Comedian RPF, Star Wars RPF, Kiefer/Lou, Lotrips, Popslash, Duran Duran, RPF, Real People, Music RPF

The two Battlestar Galacticas

Supernatural Zines, Supernatural Doujinshi, Supernatural

Visual Art, K/S Art, Star Trek Art, any other Art categories, Star Trek, Star Trek Zines

Poetry, Beauty and the Beast Poetry

CSI Miami, CSI New York, CSI Las Vegas

Pairings, Characters, Star Trek Pairings

Star Wars Zines, Star Wars TPM Zines, Star Wars TPM Doujinshi, Star Wars

Comics, Anime, Cartoons, Doujinshi

Angel, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Indiana Jones, Harrison Ford Zines, Star Wars Zines, Star Wars

Games, Role Playing, RPG, Dungeons and Dragons

Games, Resident Evil, Transformers

2. Then, assuming breaking down categories into more manageable sizes is a good thing, I think these need to be divided into smaller categories:

Star Wars (and how should they be divided up? Gen and Het Zines + Slash Zines? Or broken down again into Gen and Het Anthology, Gen and Het Novel, Slash Anthology, Slash Novel? AND should there be a distinction made between the original series and TPM, calling them Star Wars (Original Movies) or something else that distinguishes them?

Highlander (Gen and Het + Slash?)

Magnificent Seven (Gen and Het + Slash?)

The Professionals (break them down again into Novel + Anthology?)

Sentinel (break them down again into Novel + Anthology?)

Stargate SG-1 (Slash + Gen and Het?)

Supernatural (Gen and Het + Slash?)

Starsky & Hutch (break them down again into Novel + Anthology?)

I wish there was a solution to Multimedia’s size, but I can’t think of one

And finally, what to do about Lord of the Rings + Tolkien?

Comments

[ratcreature]

I think the two BSGs could just be both a subcategory of Battlestar Galactica. I think BaB Poetry could be a subcategory of BaB and of poetry? Or is this cross-subcategorizing not allowed? I thought it was, and that categories could be subcategories of different things. That way we can group several ways.

With Star Wars fandom you'd have to consider that the fandom is not just Original and Prequel trilogy, but that there is a considerable section of fandom for the Expanded Universe and its many many characters and eras (and sections in that too), though I don't know how many zines there are for the EU, but it has a sizable following with forums and fic online when I was into SW. I think Star Wars as category should be split by era first, i.e. into Original/Prequel/EU, and then these into subcategories like zines/doujinshi/communities etc, depending on how many articles have accumulated.

[mrs_potatohead]

I agree about the BSGs and the poetry stuff. But I don't understand the system enough to know *how* to do it. And what's allowed.

About Star Wars: it would be good to have folks who know the fandom well make up a game plan. Same with Tolkien/LOTR.

[ratcreature]

Well, as far as I can see the BSG categories are arranged like that already and you can see it there. On the BSG 2003 cat for ex.:

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Category:Battlestar_Galactica_%282003%29

it says "[[Category:Battlestar Galactica|*Battlestar Galactica (2003)]]" As I understand it writing it this way with the * and such puts the BSG 2003 as a subcategory in the BSG one.

[aethel]

cross-categorization is totally allowed! The Poetry category is now available, and I just added the BaB poetry zine cat as a subcategory.

LOTR pondering

[aethel]

From the point of view of a fan who's never been active in the fandom(s), LOTR and Tolkien look like the same fandom. Tolkien has written other books (and stories, and poetry translations that nobody reads), but the books people are fannish about all take place more or less in the same universe: The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, The Silmarillion. The question in my mind is: should the main fandom category be called Tolkien or Lord of the Rings? And does there need to be a Lord of the Rings (movie) subcategory? If we use the broadest possible term as the main fandom cat, it may be easier to incorporate subcategories at a later date. But Tolkien sounds more book-oriented, and Lord of the Rings might not include The Hobbit, so I'm not sure which one is broader.

Re: LOTR pondering

[mrs_potatohead]

This fandom is very tricky. There is a distinct divide between what I've been calling "Tolkien" and what I've been labeling "LOTR." And that divide seems to be based on the movies. "Tolkien" technically covers everything (all the books, all the movies) and I'd vote for having that cat on everything, and then having LOTR Movies as a subcategory, which itself would be broken down further as necessary. Not sure what to do about "The Hobbit" movie when it comes out.

Thank you for the poetry cat.

[(Anonymous)]

POI: Last week, I put a fandom category on each zine (which I think was helpful).

But I'm going to step back from any more sweeping category things. I don't feel confident I understand how they sort out and am worried I'm making a mess. That's okay... I'll just focus my energies on other things.

spin-off fandom notes

[aethel]

>Angel, Buffy

Do we want to create a Jossverse supercategory and put Angel, Buffy, Firefly, and Dollhouse under it?

>Queer as Folk UK and US

These sound like totally separate fandoms, but there don't seem to be more than one or two pages for each. Should there be one Queer as Folk category?

>CSI

?

>NCIS

??

Re: spin-off fandom notes

[meri_oddities]

I like the idea of a Jossverse Cat. I think that would be where some people might start.

I also think major cats for CSI and NCIS with the shows under them, but the shows will be their own categories, too.