Monday, October 4th, 2010 10:31 pm
The Wiki Committee has approved "Tropes & Genres" as a new floating category (a top-level category with no subcategories, like Fanworks and Glossary).

The idea is to group together all the pages that discuss genres, tropes, and trends within fanworks (all types of fanworks--fanfic, art, vids, etc.). There will be a lot of overlap with the Glossary category, but some trope pages are not fannish terms (cyberpunk, unicorns, Animals in Fanworks, Rape in Fanworks, etc.). So this category is also designed to fix the problem of miscategorized and uncategorized trope/genre pages.

Example pages to go in the category: Story Tropes, Slash Tropes, Animals in Fanworks, Cats, Undercover in a Gay Bar, Constructed Reality, Bodyswap, Hurt/Comfort, Slash, Gen, Het, Tentacles, Landscape

Pages that should NOT be included: fanwork formats like Podfic, Fanfiction, Zine, Vid, etc. These belong under Fan Activities


I have created a template to go with the new category. I've had some feedback already, but the template hasn't been used yet, so please let me know if there are major flaws, etc. I tried something new that can be easily changed even after the template is in use: a row containing some pre-programmed links to pages that would otherwise be linked manually in most trope pages (e.g. Story Tropes).
Friday, October 1st, 2010 02:45 pm
The vid template is now in use if anyone wants to try it out.

So many new zine templates are now in use that I created a guide to go with them.

Another fanwork template idea: Since vids get their own template, why not fanfiction? Any other fields to add to this one?

Amy wrote a nifty timeline help page for creating your own timeline template, like the graph on the Timeline_of_Slashed_Sources page.
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Tuesday, September 28th, 2010 06:35 pm
A few days ago the wiki committee posted an Intro to Fanlore FAQ draft for comments. In response to some of the feedback received on that post, the committee and the Board collaborated on revising one of the extant questions into two. (What was formerly question 10 is now Q10 and Q11; the previous question 11 will now become Q12, and so on.) Here's the revised material; let us know what you think!




10. I just discovered that there’s something about me on Fanlore and I feel ambivalent about it. Help?

First of all, we want you to know that everything on Fanlore is there because someone thought it was awesome, interesting, and worth mentioning. If someone wrote something about you, or about something you participated in, that’s generally a compliment.

It may feel strange to see your fannish name or your fannish history chronicled in this way. Many of us first came to fandom in an era when it was customary to “fly under the radar” — we’re used to a certain presumption of invisibility. But on today’s internet, fandom is no longer invisible. The history of fandom is already being written — often by outsiders to our communities. Our goal is to make sure that our version of our history is preserved. We believe that telling our story together is the best way to celebrate who we are and the awesome things we’ve created.

If an article has your legal name or something else that outs you or puts you into any danger, let us know immediately and we’ll fix it.

If you’d like to talk about any of this, drop us a line — we’re happy to chat with anyone about this any time, and we hope we can help you feel more at-ease. We’re here to serve both the fans who passionately want to preserve our history, and also the fans who may be startled by the idea of creating this multi-authored fannish history in a publicly-visible way.

11. There’s an article about me (or something I participated in) on Fanlore and it’s wrong! / biased! / incomplete! Can I delete it?

You can’t delete it, but you can edit it. Wikis improve through collaboration, so the way to deal with an inaccurate or incomplete entry is to add more details and perspectives to it.

If the information is just factually wrong—e.g. someone said you started writing Highlander in 1997 and it was actually 1998—you can go in and fix it. (Let us know if you need help creating an account on Fanlore; once you have an account, you can edit the page in question, and you’re welcome to also add other material to the wiki as well!)

If the information seems biased or written from a perspective you don’t agree with, you can add a countering viewpoint. Bracket the information you don’t agree with with a phrase like, “Some fans say,” and then add something like, “But others say,” or “But MY_NAME argues,” and make your own point or add a different perspective.

Remember, most people create pages on Fanlore about people and works they think are interesting and important. If you or your work show up, it’s typically a compliment.

And remember, too, that if an article outs you or puts you in any danger, you can let us know and we’ll take care of it right away.
Saturday, September 25th, 2010 09:24 pm
Sometimes when I'm editing on Fanlore, it can feel a bit like Rodney McKay is on every page.  Now I like Rodney, and I know a lot of the parts he's played in fannish history.  It's easiest to write from the perspective of the fandoms you are most familiar with, and sometimes that just means where you've been doing your reading. 

For various reasons, the alignment of the stars maybe, a lot of the early work on Fanlore was done by SGA fans.  Because of this, a lot of the pages that are about general fandom terms, the Glossary pages for example, are full of examples drawn from SGA. 

I found myself doing this just today, using examples from SGA and SPN to describe the ways in which fans use tropes like De-aging or Genderswap.  Frogspace came along and added some Merlin examples to the Genderswap page, and that was awesome. 

It would be even more awesome if fans used their insider knowledge of other fandoms to flesh out some of those pages with fandom-specific examples.  You can put more of your fandom on Fanlore in a lot of ways other than just updating the fandom page, and sometimes it's a bit less intimidating to just add a fanwork to a list or add a sentence to a page about a story trope than it is to tackle the whole fandom.

This is just my suggestion on a less obvious way you can bring your unique fandom knowledge to fanlore.

Thursday, September 23rd, 2010 08:39 pm
Hear ye, hear ye -- the profile-a-comm challenge is now ending! You're welcome to keep profiling communities if you're having fun doing that, but we're hoping you'll be excited about the new challenge too. And that new challenge is:

First Fandom:

What was your first fandom? If it already has a page in Fanlore, go add something -- even if it's just a snip of memory ("[Your_name_here] remembers XYZ...") or a link to a notable fanwork. If it doesn't yet have a page, stub one out! Remember to focus on the fandom, not on canon. And this isn't just for live-action or fiction fandoms -- if your first fandom was anime or RPF or something else entirely, we want those pages, too!

If you need help with templates or setup, feel free to leave a comment on this post and we'll jump in to lend a hand.

This challenge will run for roughly two weeks. Dive in, and enjoy!
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Thursday, September 23rd, 2010 12:08 am
Good news!


The Wiki committee has belatedly realised that they weren't staffing the Fanlore Campfire room, and as such, are going to work out a plan of staffing it as often as possible. In the meantime, we're staffing it as often as possible and will monitor the transcript as necessary.

Do feel free to come in, ask questions, and chat while editing!
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Tuesday, September 21st, 2010 08:57 pm
May I direct your attention to a few discussions on the wiki? These might benefit from more input.

We've got a draft template for vids that's ready to be used if no one can think of any more/different fields to put in it.

We're also discussing how to divide up the zine category into more manageable chunks.

And Doro has asked about a template for timelines and/or histories.
Saturday, September 18th, 2010 02:39 pm
By request, we've updated the Capitalization policy for page titles to reflect actual usage on the wiki:

In general, Fanlore follows "title case" for article titles, meaning prepositions and conjunctions are not capitalized. For example, see Letter of Comment and Jeeves and Wooster. There are two exceptions to this rule:

* Names (of persons, organizations, or works) with an established pattern of capitalization, such as bell hooks or due South.
* Disambiguation phrases. Some page titles are disambiguated with parenthetical phrases, such as Alexander (film) or The Horse-Tamer's Daughter (filk zine), that should not be capitalized unless they are proper nouns (e.g. Sherlock (BBC)).


Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns about the new rule.

Although it looks like most articles already conform to the rule, there are some articles that will need to be moved. [shameless plug] If any regular users are interested in doing cleanup on this, you are encouraged to sign up to be a gardener! [/shameless plug]
Friday, September 17th, 2010 05:25 pm
FYI, I updated all the templates to comply with the no-breadcrumb rule for categories. This means most of the templates no longer appear in the main Template category, which I figured might surprise people who are looking for them. The notices, labels, and infoboxes can now be found in the subcategories. Miscellaneous templates remain in the parent category.

I added a blurb on the main template category page about what "notices," "labels," and "infoboxes" actually are, but I could be wrong--I was extrapolating from the templates that were already in the categories. Check it out:

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Category:Fanlore_Templates

I also created redirects/shortcuts to get to the infobox and template categories: type "infoboxes" or "templates" into the search box and you will magically end up on the relevant category page! If there's another page outside of the main namespace that you need to consult frequently, but have trouble finding, consider creating a redirect for it.
Wednesday, September 15th, 2010 04:50 pm
Hi everyone! The Wiki Committee is in the process of revising our policy documents to put them in a more user-friendly FAQ form. We've got several of these in the works right now and will be sharing them here as each one is completed. Here's what we've been calling the "Intro to Fanlore FAQ." It represents a summary of some existing policies that (we hope) allows new editors to quickly get a sense of how Fanlore works. We offer it for public comment below; please feel free to ask questions or make comments, and we'll do our best to answer you in a timely way!

Please note that we may not be able to respond to your questions this weekend, because some of us (me included) will be offline for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Thanks for bearing with us.

With no further ado...

Intro to Fanlore FAQ

1. What is this Fanlore thing all about?

Fanlore is a wiki with a mission -- to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations -- WAIT, we'll come in again!

Our mission is to record the histories, experiences, traditions, and transformative works of a wide variety of fan communities. Anyone can contribute. This and our other FAQs will (we hope) answer some of the questions that may arise as you read around the wiki and ponder what you want to add to it.

2. Who can make or edit a new Fanlore page?

Anyone can do it! \o/ All you need is to register for an account (it's easy and automatic, we do this mostly to protect against spam), and then you will see "Edit" links on existing pages, and if you search for a page about a topic and find it doesn't exist, you'll be invited to create a new one.

3. I'm not a great writer. I'm worried I'll mess up someone's nicely written page.

Don't let that stop you! Wikis like Fanlore depend on multiple people adding their thoughts and experiences to existing articles and we understand that people have different writing styles. It doesn't have to be a perfectly smooth insertion. And keep in mind, too, that there are people out there who just enjoy copy editing, and that's a way to contribute to the wiki too (so don't worry about the page being uneven or about typos — someone else will enjoy fixing those.)

4. But I don't have time to write and format an entire dissertation on X event!

You don't have to write a formal paper of any kind in order to add to the wiki. Every memory, link, fact or description you add, no matter how large or small, helps to build a better picture of a fannish experience. You can add a detail or an example: e.g. adding a story to a list of notable Snape/Draco stories, or adding your recollections of a panel to a page about a con. You can even add your experience as a quote, like: YOUR_NAME remembers it this way: "[Your experience in your own words here!]"

5. I want to tell a story about something that happened at the con I went to, but I don't want to write an entire article about the whole con. Is that worth posting?

If you think it's worth remembering, then it's worth posting! Again, you don't have to write any more than you are comfortable with. Remember that someone else can come along and add their own experiences as well.

6. Do I have to write only about well known stories/vids/artworks?

There is no "notability" requirement on Fanlore: the only requirement is that a person cares enough to create a page for a fan/work/event. If you think the story/vid/artwork/fan deserves a page, then she does or it does!

7. I don't code. Coding scares the kittens out of me.

You're not alone! One of the most useful pages for a quick reference is the Cheatsheet which has simple directions on how to do headers and links and such using the wiki coding. Many people keep this page open in another window while they write. But again, it's more important that you make your contribution than you make your contribution, edited perfectly. We can always clean up and format the page later.

8. Hey! I posted an article on that thing that happened and someone's gone and changed what I wrote.

Remember that although you wrote the article (even if the article is about you), nobody "owns" a wiki article. By contributing to the wiki, you agree to let other users edit your work. We hope that each edit will improve, amend, correct, or just diversify the viewpoints on a particular subject, which again, will help to build a better picture of a fannish experience. However, if a later editor has changed what you wrote and made it inaccurate, you can edit it again to present both points of view. A good formulation is, "Some fans say... "But other fans say..."

8. There's an article on Fanlore that says X happened because of Y and that's totally not how I saw it at the time. What makes them the authority?

If someone has posted an article on Fanlore that you believe is inaccurate, incomplete, or one-sided, we encourage you to add to the article and help it to reflect a Plural Point of View.

9. What do you mean by Plural Point of View?

While there are some bare facts associated with any event (names, dates, etc.) we believe that the history of fandom is a collection of personal experiences and interpretations, many of them passed along as part of an oral tradition.

In a nutshell, the Plural Point of View policy contends that all the interpretations or experiences are of interest and should be recorded, so when you're writing your article for the wiki, avoid making sweeping generalizations ("All fans believe...") and use qualifiers and non-judgmental language. For example, "To some fans, X event was the best thing ever," leaves open the opportunity for other fans to come in and explain that they didn't think it was the best thing ever. But in a non-judgmental way. "Fan group A, who thought this was the best thing ever, are clearly crazy-cakes," does not allow for a plural point of view.

10. OMG, there's an article about me /something on Fanlore and it's wrong! / biased! / incomplete! Can I delete it?

Someone is wrong on the internet? Impossible! But no, you can't delete it, because that's not how wikis work. Wikis improve through collaboration, so the way to deal with an inaccurate or incomplete entry is to add more details and perspectives to it.

If the information is just factually wrong--e.g. someone said you started writing Highlander in 1997 and it was actually 1998--you can just go in and fix it.

If the information seems biased or written from a perspective you don't agree with, you can add a countering viewpoint. Bracket the information you don't agree with with a phrase like, "Some fans say," and then add something like, "But others say," or "But MY_NAME argues," and make your own point or add a different perspective.

All that being said, if an article has your legal name or something else that outs you or puts you into any danger, let us know immediately and we'll fix it. And remember, most people create pages on Fanlore about people and works they think are interesting and important. If you or your work show up, it's typically a compliment.

11. I've got the real scoop on X event from a friend's journal, but she locked it, so not everyone got to see it. It's all totally true, though. Can I post that?

If the post has always been locked, then you can't post or link to it. However, if it was unlocked (ie public) at some point (and is now locked) then you can quote from it or link to a saved screencap of it.

12. What is fair use?

Fair use is a provision of U.S. copyright law that says that we can use copyrighted material without permission in appropriate circumstances. Fair use favors commentary, quotation, and critical analysis, as well as preservation of the historical record. Images, for example, can be part of an article to illustrate a point in the article.

13. It sounds kind of like anything goes around here. What is just plain not okay on the wiki?

Sockpuppets (each user may have only one account on the wiki). Also vandalism (any additions made in an attempt to damage the wiki) and spam (advertising which invades our fannish space). These are not a few of our favorite things, and we will delete them with abandon.

The other thing that's not permitted is "outing" another fan. We know that many fans are careful to keep their pseudonymous fan identities separate from their real names, and we want to respect that. If we discover that someone's identity has been exposed, the page will be reverted and the history removed, and we reserve the right to ban anyone who outs another fan.

14. But what if someone's comfortable linking their two identities?

If you can point to a statement made by that fan, on an account that they control, where they've publicly expressed that they're fine with linking their two identities, then you can link those identities on a wiki page.

If you want to link your own realname and pseudonymous identities, you can log in to the wiki using OpenID, demonstrating that you own the identity you're exposing.

But our general assumption is that identity exposure is unwanted. Please respect your fellow fans.

15. What if I disagree with another user's assertion about something?

You can always edit a page to include more points of view. If you disagree with someone's edits, you can use that article's Talk page to chat with the page's other editors. If you can't come to an agreement that way, you can contact a Gardener or Administrator for help.

16. I have a specific concern that isn't addressed here.

Please contact us! Our goal is to make Fanlore a fantastic resource and fun to use and contribute to, and we want to help if you are having issues. Contact the gardeners Contact the wiki committee




Thursday, September 9th, 2010 08:17 am
The Pink Sparkly Hearts challenge is over! It's time for our next challenge...

Profile-A-Comm

Your mission, should you choose to accept it: pick a community that you belong to and create a page for it on Fanlore. You can use the community template to fill in the basic information; then the fun part, writing about the community and why it’s nifty keen. What are conversations like? Is it active or are posts sporadic? Has it changed over time? Tell us about it!

This challenge will run for roughly two weeks. The community template is provided below for your easy use. And feel free to drop a comment on this post to let us know what you're posting about!

Community template... )
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Wednesday, September 1st, 2010 11:24 pm
Why scan Interior art? I can understand the fanzine covers for reference and I can understand posting art which is already online. But posting interior art from zines I don't understand. Has anyone contacted the artists and gotten permission from them? Do you need to?
Why not start scanning the stories from all the older fanzines and posting them too.
Tuesday, August 31st, 2010 12:16 pm
We've got a few policy updates ready to see the light of day (alas, the image policy draft is not one of them, due in part to recent legal developments -- see the board post). First up is an overhaul of the Administrators page. Administrators were a separate category of users that was described on a page back in the beginning of the wiki, but somehow never got implemented. The Administrators' role is to manage users and help implement the policies set by the Wiki Committee. In practice, the Committee has taken on some of these responsibilities, but there are still gaps between what the Gardeners and the Committee have been doing. (The committee's main tasks are setting policy and working with Systems on technical issues. The Gardeners' main tasks are watering, weeding, pruning, and sometimes replanting the many species of articles that grow in our beautiful wiki garden.)

So! We have compiled a list of tasks that outline what admins can and should do to help the wiki run smoothly. However, nothing is set in stone! Please take a look and let us know if these tasks make sense or if there are still gaps in who is responsible for what. Or if you have questions. Or something else.

At this point, the difference between admins and the committee is still a bit theoretical since the only people acting as admins at present are on the committee. So this post is also a call for volunteers. To qualify for Administrator, you'll need experience as a gardener. But anyone able to regularly visit and monitor the wiki is welcome to become a Gardener.

Who wants to be a gardener or an admin? You can send an email to wiki@transformativeworks.org or gardeners@fanlore.org to sign up.
Tuesday, August 24th, 2010 05:58 pm
I thought it was high-time to introduce myself, and start the ball rolling regarding the technical issues that Fanlore has and some technical changes we would like to attempt. And, ah, after my experiment with the namespace implementation, we realised we needed to talk more thoroughly with the users of Fanlore.

So, I'm Amy, and I'm a new Fanlore staffer who was recruited to help fix some bugs and start implementing new technical functionality. Hi! Before I was a Fanlore staffer, I was a staffer on the now defunct Documentation team, and I also volunteer for Support, AD&T, and Tag Wrangling.

In good news, I have fixed what we called the TOC bug, where people not using the WordPress skin had a table of contents sprawled across the page. \o/

I've also been asked to look at implementing what are called namespaces for languages other than English on the wiki, and after the watchful gardeners got a bit confused at my experiment with one page, it was clear that we had to ask the Fanlore users about how they would like to structure pages written in other languages. English is the default language for Fanlore, but we definitely welcome translations and other pages written in other languages! This post is for just that -- how can we make pages in languages other than English accessible and translatable for the general Fanlore community? Are you happy with the status quo? Or, if not (and we'd love to hear why not), do you have ideas on how it could be improved?
Sunday, August 22nd, 2010 06:38 pm
Hi everyone! I'm going to be posting a new challenge here every two weeks for the rest of 2010. We'll all have two weeks to create Fanlore entries in response to this challenge, and then a new challenge will go live. (Of course, you can always respond to older challenges even once newer ones have been posted, but the idea here is to get us creating and editing wiki pages with joy and abandon.) With no further ado, here's the new challenge -- which will run until September 5 or thereabouts.

The Pink Sparkly Hearts Challenge!

What was the first piece of fanfiction you ever fell in love with? Create a page for it and write about why it is awesome. (If you're not into fic, how about the first vid you ever loved? The first piece of fanart? Insert your fanwork of choice here!) The idea here is to create pages for the fanworks around which you want to draw big pink sparkly hearts. You've got two weeks; the clock starts now; ready -- set -- go!
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Wednesday, August 18th, 2010 01:18 pm
Hey all, speaking for the Board here, a few things re the most recent post, now frozen:

We do get being frustrated with how long the policy revisions are taking, but this community is not a public complaint board about the Wiki committee, and such posts are off-topic.

Policies are going to be posted for public comment when they are considered ready, which is not the same thing as building policies in public, which is not practical and which we just don't do at all in the org. That's not at all about not wanting to include many voices, but policies are difficult enough to draft and revise even in private with a small team of participants, as you can see from how long it is taking.

The Wiki committee is under a bunch of constraints, including that official wiki policy has to be approved by the Board and Legal committees as extensions of official OTW policy, and the new draft just isn't there right now. To some extent the latest delay is due to very recent legal developments that we feel let us significantly broaden the policy, which in the long run is an awesome thing, but in the short run means another round of changes. We're really sorry about the slowness, but it doesn't make sense for us to post draft policies for comment that we know are not where they need to be. It will overall save time for us to get them into better shape first.

Just like with the Archive TOS and the OTW FAQs, we *will* put it out there for comment -- nothing new is going to actually be put in place and enforced without a real opportunity for everyone interested in the wiki to provide input. That's what we can and do promise.

Similarly, the Wiki committee may sometimes just need to try things out on Fanlore just to see how they work and look before a policy or process can be formulated internally and then put out for comment; and in particular, with technical solutions, we may just need to implement whatever solution looks like it will work best with our systems. And there are other committees in the org such as International Outreach that also have a stake in something like having more international representation on the wiki, which we try to balance with other needs.

We *will* try and do a better job of communicating in more detail what is going on to you guys, but if you're really interested in the nitty-gritty of policy back and forth, or knowing everything that is being tried out on the wiki, then I hugely encourage you to please contact Volunteers and volunteer to join the wiki committee, for whenever there is a vacancy.

And more broadly, even if that isn't feasible for you or there isn't an opening, keep in mind that the fundamental underlying goal here (for all of us!) is to make Fanlore easy and fun to contribute to and make it a really useful resource, and if we do somehow land on a policy or a technical system that turns out to work against that (either before or even after it is finalized and implemented), we can and will change it.
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Wednesday, August 18th, 2010 02:28 pm
While the Wiki Committee has been somewhat more visible this year than before, I still feel the communication with the rest of the Wiki users about the ongoing development of the policies is not very good.

I can understand the reluctance to post unfinished things that are still in discussion in the smaller group of the committee in public, but otoh with the lack of slightly more detailed "in progress" updates topics just vanish and others appear without transparency, and for me this causes a lack of feeling like that we are working on building a wiki and its policies together, but instead things appear to suddenly come down from "above".

To be a little more concrete, for example back in April there was that image policy discussion based on the first draft the committee has worked out, and there was lively discussion, feedback for the draft, some disagreements and competing goals etc. and then it went back to the committee for revision. So far, so good. Then there was nothing further said on this comm or the news on the wiki that I remember seeing however there were brief mentions in the OTW newsletter you could glean, i.e. in May it said "[we] have been working with Legal to continue to revise the Image policy based on user feedback" and in June "the Image policy is still in the hands of the OTW's Legal committee" (that committee's update in the newsletter didn't mention anything in detail) and in July it was "Work continues on category refinement, the FAQ, and the templates for the new Image policy." So when that was posted on July 31 I thought "great, the policy is finished (if they are working on the templates already) and will be posted soon, yay!" but almost three weeks later it hasn't been. I guess the decision may have been to wait with posting anything until all templates and the technical side is finished and polished too, but I would have loved inbetween updates.

Then yesterday through the Talk:Stargate Rollenspiel page I hear that the committee has been discussing different namespaces for different languages, and that apparently that page was a trial for the backend that has been installed. That hasn't been mentioned or discussed anywhere I have seen before, so I felt really surprised by that. Not least because I thought the committee was working on the image thing and on the technical side of that. Of course there can be work on both, but I didn't know there was now some focus on translation, when the increase of our editor base in general goes quite slowly (so to me expanding into translation efforts with whole different name spaces seems somewhat "pie in the skie" like and I didn't think it would be a project right now to expand into non-English articles).
Saturday, July 31st, 2010 01:52 pm
Anyone have any opinions on OneManga closing and all the recent scanlation news? I've tried to flesh out some of the scanlation articles, but I've never been a big online reader.
Saturday, July 31st, 2010 01:13 pm
I think this should be discussed and laid out more clearly, because the practice for some articles seems to differ from what the policies say.

From looking at the policies it seems to me that a fan's say over their wiki article (unlike their personal user page) is mainly due to the Identity Protection policy (when it comes to a say what name(s)/pseud(s) the wiki uses), and the Fanlore:Ethical Standards for Community & Content, which lay out how to be careful when writing about living persons. The most relvant bits of the latter seem to be that things said about fans ought to be accurate and not harmful to them or the communities.

In practice on artist pages in particular we seem to accommodate detailed display and content wishes of the artists, that seem to take precedence. (see the discussion pages for Gayle F and Caren Parnes) The gist of the argument I took away from the last time this came up was that the wiki should accommodate artist's display wishes because otherwise they might ask to have the art removed, especially the higher quality samples they scanned themselves. And while I'm still not sold on the idea that the best way to have artist pages on the wiki is with these huge galleries with many pictures -- aside from the page load issues it seems to me at odds with the "Fanlore is not an archive for all fanworks from every fan" policy that claims "Fanlore will not act as an index of all of the fanworks that any individual fan may have created, though references to individual fanworks and pages for controversial and/or significant fanworks is always desired." -- I was fine with that, but display is one thing, the most recent issue is wrt the content.

I could perhaps see an artist making the argument that she'd rather not have the explicit art displayed prominently on their profile article as falling under the "no harm" rule (depending on public image questions, whether it's the legal name that is associated, also the nature of the pornographic art etc), but the "Back to Back" for example is not pornographic in any way, so I guess it's because the artist doesn't like that piece? I mean, I have no idea, but it was removed because of the artists preference. And it is not so much that I think displaying that cover is essential to the article, but I think it's worth discussing this as the precedent this seems to set.

IMO as much as I enjoy looking at pretty fanart on the wiki, especially for artists who don't have much of an other online presence elsewhere, it is still not a gallery display site, and I'd rather make do with a few crappy pictures than have some special wiki pages that are "endorsed" by the fans they cover, and fully or partially exempt from the standard editing procedures (whether formatting or content), while regularly with all other articles the editorial control is shared between all wiki editors collectively.

At the very least I think there should be discussion of this on a wider basis than a few talk pages.
Wednesday, July 14th, 2010 08:30 pm
LJ is planning to delete inactive accounts (personal journals and communities which haven't been signed into for 24 months).

To quote:
Purging inactive accounts: One of the benefits of the work we've done to purge suspended accounts is that we will now be able to purge inactive journals and communities too--something you've been requesting for years! A journal is defined as inactive if it has not been logged into for 24 consecutive months. A community is defined as inactive if has not been updated for 24 consecutive months. Once an account is eligible to be purged for inactivity, the owner will be sent an email to alert them of the inactive status. The owner will then have two weeks to log into the journal or post to their community to prevent it from being deleted. If the owner does not log in or post, the account will be deleted and treated like any other deleted account (the owner will have 30 days to log in and undelete the account to prevent it from being purged).


I know this is definitely going to have an impact on some of the pages I've edited. Thoughts on how to deal with soon to be vanished references?