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Geocities Rescue links

Thursday, September 10th, 2009 01:19 pm

It's starting to get down to the wire on rescuing Geocities pages -- I think the purge has already started, given some pages I suddenly can't find -- and there's a staggering amount that hasn't been done yet.

So I thought maybe it would be good to have a post where people could at least leave links to Geocities pages, maybe with a very short description of what they are, so wiki editors would have a starting place. (Links to screencaps of existing pages would also be awesome, so those could be uploaded to Fanlore later, but that would be icing.)

That way, even if not everything gets done, we have a chance of being able to find these pages on the Wayback Machine later -- once we lose the links, we've lost our chance.

( This is what I'm already starting to see )

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more ideas about how to attract more fans to edit

ratcreature

Thursday, September 10th, 2009 02:49 am

I commented in that discussion linked here earlier with some thoughts I had about what would make contributing more attractive: I think that maybe a "focus on" feature would be nice. I think it is more fun to contribute when others are working on related articles at the same time (for example "focus on fandom X" or a genre or a fanactivity, like "focus on conventions" or costuming, even recurring popular kerfuffles that could be tracked through fandoms or whatever), because then there is more opportunity for discussion and feedback, talk about what article structure would best, and you learn interesting stuff from other fans in the process or can reminiscence about how kerfuffle such and so was on mailing list X, so then there is less of that feeling of toiling in the wilderness full of frustration. Also newbies wouldn't have such a steep learning curve because they'd co-edit with more familiar people, so they wouldn't have to know or find the code for templates or advanced formatting on their own, but would just have to say "it would be cool to have this as a table/have a gallery here/get an infobox/..." And even if you didn't know anyone personally you'd be still in a group. It would be easier for people familiar with the fanlore to remember to talk to newbies too, because there'd be a common topic.

Suggestion!

facetofcathy

Wednesday, September 9th, 2009 12:22 pm

Real fast, because I'm cooking.

Can there be a live practice page?

Seeded with a lot of the usual things, templates, links, cites, and then people can try out editing and formating and get comfortable.

Yes/No?

How to make Fanlore more newbie-friendly

cesy

Wednesday, September 9th, 2009 10:55 am

For anyone who isn't following

metafandom,

facetofcathy has a great post with some discussion about Fanlore and how to improve it.

Survey of Fail on fanlore yet?

msilverstar

Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009 10:17 pm

I found http://fanlore.org/wiki/Rule_34, but not the Ogi survey gigantic fail. Is it there yet? BTW, no searching for "Ogi" in text because the mediawiki search engine refuses to index words of less than four characters :-=(

I can't even begin to start it, my brain has completely melted. But maybe someone else could?

ETA, Sunday: the SurveyFail entry is fantastic, and getting linked from places like a neuroanthropology.net article

finding things in the wiki?

ratcreature

Monday, August 24th, 2009 08:06 pm

I have a question about searches in the wiki via the the "what links here" function.

As I mentioned in my last post, right now I'm putting fanzines that are being added or have been added in lists so that people using the wiki might have a chance to find them. The problem is that finding the fanzines that have pages is not always easy for me. The search engine is less than helpful, and I was trying to find a way around the lack of the fandom category. So I figured out (fanlore is really the first wiki I'm using a lot) that clicking on the "what links here" link in not too large fandoms works as a decent substitute as most pages that link to a fandom are related to it, because the zines usually link to all fandoms they belong to. However in large fandoms there are naturally a lot of pages that aren't fanzines, so what would be really awesome would be if you could somehow combine queries.

What I mean is that the wiki can tell me what pages link to say "The Sentinel" and it can tell me what pages are in the "Category:Zine", so is there some way I can get the wiki to tell me the overlap, i.e. what pages both link to "The Sentinel" AND belong to "Category:Zines"? I mean, surely the wiki must be able to tell me that somehow?

Current Mood: clueless

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fandom sub categories for zines (or really all fanworks)

ratcreature

Wednesday, August 19th, 2009 02:19 pm

Yesterday and today I have started to add zines pages that have been added as articles to lists on the respective fandom (sub)pages so that the zine articles wouldn't be orphaned and could also be found more easily (the search rather sucks). However this is drudgery, as I more or less just do data sorting and reassembly by hand. It would make much more sense, IMO, if the zine category had fandom subcategories, and when creating a new page for a sentinel zine it would just have a category "category:zine:sentinel" or something like that. Then if for easier display one would still like a list on the fandom zine subpage one could at least c&p the list the wiki assembles instead of going through orphaned pages and/or search results by hand. Why aren't there fandom subcategories?

Current Mood: lazy

Tutorial writers needed!

brownbetty

Sunday, August 2nd, 2009 01:15 pm

I am looking for some help writing tutorials for a promotion we have planned in October. I'm looking for a series of very accessible entry level tutorials, covering:

1. Signing up as a wiki user!
2. Making your userpage!
3. Wiki links!
4. Your first article!
5. Templates, and making your first article pretty!

Of course, like everything else on the wiki, this is ideally suited to being done collaboratively, so even a little bit of help is very welcome.

If this is something you'd be interested in, let me know! I am planning to work on it, but doubting I can do it all myself. Would people be willing to help filling in some scaffolding?

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volunteers wanted

pairing names

stultiloquentia

Saturday, August 1st, 2009 05:08 pm

Oh, help help.

I spent part of this afternoon puttering around making stubs for characters and ships -- but I'm confused about the naming of pairing pages, and afraid I put some things in the wrong places.

Could somebody explain to me in small words how to create subpages with slashes in their titles? I want, for example, Buffy/Spike to appear as a subpage of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, as McKay/Sheppard does for Stargate Atlantis. What do I type in the search box to get that?

Thanks.

Helpful Wiki Conversion Tools

morgandawn

Wednesday, July 29th, 2009 12:30 pm

Fanlore is based on the MediaWiki syntax? dialect? Anyhow,lists of tools that will covert spreadsheets, word, and websites to wiki formatting. Here

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Transferring Larger Amounts of Fanzine Data

morgandawn

Tuesday, July 28th, 2009 11:32 pm

We've been chatting with the Gardeners about fanzine lists so rache suggested I post this here.

I and a few other fans are maintaining fanzine lists for archival purposes. We'd love to get the data into Fanlore but recently discovered that the Fanlore formatting and privacy rules will require that we redo entire lists (ex. fan names must be first name then last initial.). We're very sensitive to fannish privacy concerns and do not want to step on toes.

We have two suggestions - we create a new general page (ex: Due South Fanzines) and copy and paste the data we directly have. Fanlore can then recruit someone else to reformat the list to meet the fanlore requirements and add zine specific pages if they think it makes sense.

Or alternatively, Fanlore can find someone else to pull the info off our websites and.journals and move it there in the proper Fanlore format.

Normally we'd manage the transferring ourselves, but because Fanlore has their own format rules we cannot simultaneously keep the fanzine lists up to date and also reformat them. Rache thinks that the reformatting sounds like a great activity for Fanlore newbies to get involved with, so we're handing this off to anyone else who wants to help .

An example of lists with lots of data:

Starsky & Hutch
http://ckua-pepper.livejournal.com/tag/zines

Then there is this list (tables and covers)
Star Trek Zinedex
http://klhalliday.com/Zinedex/TitleIndex.htm

One with links and covers and tables
Due South
http://www.morgandawn.com/duesouthzines.htmI

I did a test copy and paste of my Due South fanzine list that is...workable, but omitts the links and the cover art. But for a list like the SH or Star Trek, someone needs to help with reformatting and transfer.

Otherwise you end up with something that looks like this (edited to add: I am testing out the html-wiki conversion tool from here and it is much readable than the 'copy and paste method. We used the MediaWiki settings).

On Behalf of Mrs. Potato Head: style sheets? a good model to follow?

melina

Tuesday, July 28th, 2009 04:11 pm

From Mrs. Potato Head:

I've pretty much dived in to Fanlore a few days ago and have been adding fanzines and their contents. I really, really hope I'm doing it right.

Is there a page that lays out how things are to be referred to? Example: multi-fandom/multimedia/multi-media? Or for fandoms: Man from U.N.C.L.E./Man From U.N.C.L.E./The Man from...? How about including "the" and "a" in fandoms and zine titles: The A-Team/A-Team? Is there a way to correct a page heading after one's searched it, and used the link to make a new page only to discover too late that not capitalizing correctly in a search or not using an exclamation point makes it look like two different entries? Is there a masterlist of authors and people who I can use full names before 1995? Is there a couple of "ideal" pages I can use as models?

I've got lots of questions and don't know who to ask!
Mrs. Potato Head

Fanzine Covers

morgandawn

Tuesday, July 28th, 2009 03:10 pm

I (and a few others) are keeping lists of fanzines. In fact we just sent off a message to the Fanlore 'gardeners' on how best to transfer the data to the Wiki.

But I have another question: covers. I am working with The Star Wars Collector's Bible and Star Trekindex to collect cover images from eBay listings. It would be too great an undertaking for one person to upload the covers, but I'd be happy to start sending them to Fanlore for archival purposes (and possibly even uploading). I also have some Due South covers, Starsky & Hutch and Supernatural covers. If there is interest, I can try to collect as many as possible if Fanlore sees a use for them.

Fanlore and the Imeem Debacle

francescacoppa

Monday, July 13th, 2009 07:48 pm

I was just doing a bit of work over at fanlore.org when I realized that, sigh, many of our vid URLS are now wrong wrong wrong.

Vidders, if you haven't gone over to add your new locations to your homepages, please do, but fanlore folks in general: if you've got nothing to do (ha), you might search for imeem on fanlore and see if you know of alternate locations for any of the vids that come up with those urls on random pages!

On Fanlore and Squee

stultiloquentia

Sunday, July 12th, 2009 08:01 pm

Here's the thing: I want to play with Fanlore. Specifically, I want to run around adding links to more rec and master lists than anybody could possibly want, and citations of specific stories that I think are good illustrations of trope x, and author blurbs! "Author X is influential in this corner of fandom, and here's what she's known for, and here's her website."

But I'm embarrassed!

I'm not afraid of being biased, because that's hopeless; of course I'm going to be biased; I'm a FANGIRL. But I'm afraid of looking like I'm just sucking up, scurrying around kissing the velvet slippers of my favourite BNFs. I already maintain a recs site in which I fawn with perfect complacence, so it's a dumb hang-up, really.

But I think it's Fanlore's big problem right now: people are afraid to add stuff, because they might do it wrong, and accidentally let loose a squee or something. Oh noes.

I have a proposal.

How about we declare it Shameless Fangirl Week at Fanlore (I am open to catchier titles), and go out and persuade everybody to pick one fan -- reccer, mod, maker of good things -- who helped shape their own fannish experience, and give them a page. Doesn't have to be comprehensive. Needn't even contain adjectives, if you still fear being flogged by a ghostly Salmon of Objectivity. Just needs to be a start.

Fanlore can still get down with its judicious overviews of Major Trends and Prominent Figures. But can we make it a crazy, Willy Wonka-esque Clearinghouse of Goodies, too?

Bug Tracking Log Available

wickedwords

Sunday, July 12th, 2009 02:17 pm

Fanlore has added a Bug Tracking log to the site, which we plan on using to replace the old issues page tracking system. You can go ahead and add issues to the list, plus check to see the status on any outstanding items that have already been logged and are in-process. We hope that by having the log, there will be better visibility into issues and better communication to the community about what is being worked on at any given point in time.

If you have any questions, comments, or things that you want us to add to the list--or if you want to work on any of the items listed--please let us know by emailing the wiki committee at wiki at transformativeworks dot org.

Thanks!

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Imeem Shutdown: Vidder Move Updates Requested

wickedwords

Sunday, June 28th, 2009 11:22 am

As imeem is shutting down their video service at the end of the month, many vidders are setting up new sites for their work. So if you're a vidder, we'd love it if you'd update your fanlore pages with your new site or sites, if you're using more than one service).

We'd also appreciate it if you could just double check the entries for the people that you know have moved sites to see if we have the information in Fanlore. I think a lot of people just doing a tiny bit in a mass migration like this will really help keep Fanlore current.

Thanks everyone!

A great fannish loss

cesperanza

Sunday, June 14th, 2009 11:38 pm

I hope that I'm not the first bearer of the terrible news that

minotaurs has passed away following a heart attack. I'm posting here because I immediately went to fanlore and saw that he didn't have a page; Arduinna and I are working on it now, and I'm hoping others will come and help, now and in the coming days. (We also need to preserve his projects, including Sex Tips for Slash Writers, etc) and it might be nice to have a page of recollections about him or something, though I'm not sure how or if that would work (Fanlore mods?))

I'm just so saddened by this.

What do you mean there's no article on...

franzeska

Thursday, May 28th, 2009 04:59 pm

So I keep seeing people mention that--horrors--there's no article on [this famous anime/that decade-old convention/this person you really should have heard of]. It's all very well and good to tell people to start the article themselves, but it's kind of intimidating to start from scratch or put in a mostly blank placeholder that says "Well I know it's a big fandom, but..."

So, with that in mind, what articles do you wish someone else had already written so you wouldn't have to? My top ones are Weiß Kreuz and Saiyuki (all of my friends were in them once upon a time, but I never really was).

Geocities retirement brainstorming

wickedwords

Sunday, May 24th, 2009 11:36 am

As most of you know, Geocitites is shutting down. My gut feeling is that there are several articles that are linked to geocities, and we need to document and fix those links. Can everyone help identify where we need to make changes, and add comments to this post about them? Then people who want to look for easy changes to make can go through the list, and either change the links to the wayback machine, or do screencaps, or make the links to alternate sites if possible.

Other thoughts?

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Geocities Rescue links

more ideas about how to attract more fans to edit

Suggestion!

How to make Fanlore more newbie-friendly

Survey of Fail on fanlore yet?

finding things in the wiki?

fandom sub categories for zines (or really all fanworks)

Tutorial writers needed!

pairing names

Helpful Wiki Conversion Tools

Transferring Larger Amounts of Fanzine Data

On Behalf of Mrs. Potato Head: style sheets? a good model to follow?

Fanzine Covers

Fanlore and the Imeem Debacle

On Fanlore and Squee

Bug Tracking Log Available

Imeem Shutdown: Vidder Move Updates Requested

A great fannish loss

What do you mean there's no article on...

Geocities retirement brainstorming